What IS
the
Spiritual Arena?

Where Science and Religion


Meet Common Sense.

"The important thing
is not to stop questioning."
- Albert Einstein

 

The LiveReal Spiritual Arena is structured to act as a meeting ground for many different perspectives: the scientific, the religious, the personal, the "perplexed," and the "weary."

The Spiritual Arena is for those who are interested in "The Answer."

The way we figure, nearly every individual, at some point in their numbered days, pauses amid all the worries and pleasures, rush and bustle of life - and from a taste of suffering, tragedy, or wonder, quietly asks, in one way or another, "What's it all about?"

The Goal of the LiveReal Spiritual Arena
is to look the fundamental questions of life (a.k.a. the Big Burrito)
eye-to-eye:

Who am I?
Why am I here?
What is it all about?
What am I doing with my life?
Where did I come from, and where am I going?
What is the meaning of it all?
What happens at death?
How should I spend my life?


. . . because, we figure, we're all going to start thinking sooner or later.
Might as well start now.

"I would like to beg you
to have patience with everything unresolved in your heart
and try to love the questions themselves
as if they were locked rooms or books in a very foreign language.
Don't search for the answers, which could not be given to you now,
because you would not be able to live them.
And the point is, to live everything. Live the questions now.
Perhaps then, someday far in the future,
you will gradually, without even noticing it,
live your way into the answer."
- Ranier Maria Rilke


The Modern Spiritual Melting Pot

We approach these questions from many different perspectives:


The "Scientific"

"All through school and university
I had been given maps of life and knowledge
on which there was hardly a trace of many of the things that I most cared about
and that seemed to me to be
of the greatest possible importance to the conduct of my life."
- E. F. Schumacher

From a "scientific" perspective, we approach the situation using methods of doubt, theory, critical thinking, working hypothesis, systematic experimentation, and empirical experience, to . . . in more words or less . . . explore areas where most scientists fear to tread, but where some (Einstein, Hawking, my old chemistry professor Dr. Sears, and a few others), do not:the original inspiration of the Enlightenment, "The Answer," many other names, but overall, the Big Burrito.

"It seems plain and self-evident, yet it needs to be said:
the isolated knowledge obtained by a group of specialists in a narrow field
has in itself no value whatsoever, but only in its synthesis with all the rest of knowledge
and only inasmuch as it really contributes in this synthesis toward answering
the demand, 'Who are we?'"
- Erwin Schrodinger

The Religious

"Whoever strives with all his power,
we are allowed to save."
- said the Angels in Goethe's Faust

Another approach we take is the religious perspective, where members of various traditions may possibly find material to deepen and strengthen their faith or practice.

While m any individuals struggle with their faith, or find the system of beliefs they have grown accustomed to for some reason no longer works for them,others maintain a strong, real faith, within a particular tradition, that works for them in a very solid way.

From this perspective, the Spiritual Arena may possibly serve to help strengthen faith, deepen conviction, stimulate thinking, and to overall enhance the experience of those who are both struggling, and those who simply want their beliefs to grow and strengthen, through exploring such questions as "What does it mean to be a real Christian, Buddhist, Moslem, Hindu?" "Are different religious perspectives incompatible?" "How does religion really apply to practical life?" . . . and so on.

"I want to know God's thoughts.
The rest are details."
- Albert Einstein

The Personal

"Man has no reason to philosophize,
except with a view to happiness."
- Saint Augustine

From the personal angle, when you get down to it,
. . . almost all of us feel like something is missing.

Sometimes it seems like we're always waiting . . . Waiting for the next promotion, next paycheck, the next million, the next fun time, the next girlfriend, boyfriend, etc etc etc, in hopes that . . . that one will be "IT," somehow that next one will . . . make it aaaall come together.

Even if we seem to have it all . . . the house, the car, the job, the house, the girlfriend, boyfriend, the clothesthekidsthewatchthe attitude, the multimedia video-disk player/salad-maker . . . and it seems like everything should be perfect.

. . . but it's not.

Why?

"It is not for man to seek, or even to believe in, God.
He only has to refuse his ultimate love to everything that is not God.
This refusal does not presuppose any belief.
It is enough to recognize what is obvious to any mind:
that all the good of this world, past, present, and future, real or imaginary,
are finite and limited and radically incapable of satisfying
the desire that perpetually burns within us for an infinite and perfect good."
- Simone Weil

From this angle, we start from a state of dissatisfaction, a lack of fulfillment, maybe even unhappiness and outright "life-is-sheer-hell" suffering . . . and search for "the cure" for it . . . if such a thing exists.

Because many people, intelligent people, say it does.

And, heck . . . what could be more worthwhile to search for?

"Better than a hundred years lived in vice, without contemplation,
is one single day of life lived in virtue and in deep contemplation.
Better than a hundred years lived in ignorance, without contemplation,
is one single day of life lived in wisdom and in deep contemplation.
Better than a hundred years lived in idleness and in weakness
is a single day of life lived with courage and powerful striving."
- The Dhammapada

The Perplexed

"The first key to wisdom is this -
constant and frequent questioning . . .
for by doubting we are led to question
and by questioning we arrive at the truth."
- Peter Abelard

Many of us simply don't know what the heck we believe in. Especially nowadays.

"I'm a religious person who believes in science. . . a scientist who believes in religion . .? An agnostic? A struggling believer? Sort of a cross between atheist-believer who likes to have fun? A fundamentalist agnostic?"

"I'm an atheist Jewish priest devoutly devoted to a firm agnosticism who does yoga and works studying biochemistry as a fundamentalist-scientist-who-likes-to-have-fun type."

Modern America is often a confusing mishmash of sound bites, empty hype, long days, and all of us chasing carrots and things . . .

In this sense, The Spiritual Arena can potentially be a place to search for, and maybe find, a place to sort things out.

"We are impelled . . . to have great confidence
in our ability to have picked the side of Truth,
without noticing that millions of other people of opposite belief
have equal conviction."
- Richard Rose

The Weary

"Would any one of us
undertake even a journey of a few hundred miles
without knowing why, without having some purpose?
And yet, so many of us live, undertaking not a chance task,
but the great Task of life itself . . .
and yet we ask not why."
- J. J. Van der Leeuw

From another angle, some of us are just tired of all the bullshit.

From this angle, LiveReal is designed to be the cure for phonies. When life seems like a stupid, pointless, meaningless, noisy and dull drama full of posers with a bad plot and a worse ending . . .

LiveReal is designed to be a place where we can cut the crap and talk straight about things that really matter.

"Here the ways of men part:
if you wish to strive for peace of soul and pleasure, then believe;
if you wish to be a devotee of truth,
then inquire."
- Friedrich Nietzsche

So . . .

Of course, many people would say that the above perspectives (the scientific, personal, religious, etc) are completely, utterly incompatible, always will be, and should stay that way from now to the end of time. This could be true - but on the other hand, how are we going to know it's true unless we talk about it some?

"As Amr lay on his deathbed a friend said to him:
'You have often remarked
that you would like to find an intelligent man at the point of death,
and to ask him what his feelings were. Now I ask you that question.
Amr replied,
'I feel as if heaven lay close upon the earth
and I between the two, breathing through the eye of a needle."
- Amr Ibn Al-As

Our approach

"You are a player in this rigorous game of living . . .
The first rule is: every player dies;
none know when it's coming . . . Everyone has to play.
The game goes on forever - or until you win.
You win by finding death before it finds you.
The prize - is life."
- Barry Long

Our approach is non-denominational, and is designed for those who consider themselves scientists and skeptics, "believers" and "non-believers," agnostics and those who don't know what they are. This approach is inclusive, and looks straight in the face of both science and religion.

"Science without religion is lame,
Religion without science is blind."
- Albert Einstein

. . . because we use the tools of both faith and reason . . .

"Faith and reason are like two wings
on which the human spirit rises to the contemplation of truth."
- Pope John Paul II (Fides et Ratio)

. . . and we are interested in what real religion and science agree on:
the search for the truth.

. . . because we figure, if it's really the truth, it ought to stand up to a little bit of honest questioning.

On the other hand, if you wish to proceed, then we will hereafter (ahem) assume you agree that this approach of using our noggins and our hearts in pursuit of the questions above (whether you think it's a hero's quest or a fools') is OK.

. . . in other words,
at least
on some level,
you're a seeker.

" seek, and ye shall find . . ."
- Matthew 7.7


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