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Meaninglessness and Existential Depression

A guide to navigating what appears to be a pointless, empty, dead-end world.

"It is here that we encounter the central theme of existentialism:
to live is to suffer,
to survive is to find meaning in the suffering."
- Viktor Frankl

The Human Hamster Wheel.

If the world is a human hamster wheel, and we are hamsters...then maybe we should stop running?
(image from the LiveReal Tour)

What's the point?

We all get up in the morning, go to bed in the evening, eat, sleep, work, eat, sleep, and work, day after day after day, but...

What's it all about? Why?

Where is this all leading? Is this going anywhere?

The Problem

The Desert of the Real. Literally. Sort of. Welcome to the desert of the Real. Literally. Sort of.

"Imagine a happy group of morons who are engaged in work. They are carrying bricks in an open field.
As soon as they have stacked all the bricks at one end of the field, they proceed to transport them to the opposite end. This continues without stop and every day of every year they are busy doing the same thing.

One day one of the morons stops long enough
to ask himself what he is doing. He wonders what purpose there is in carrying the bricks.

And from that instant on he is not quite as content
with his occupation as he had been before.

I am the moron who wonders why he is carrying the bricks."

- suicide note,
as quoted in Existential Psychotherapy
by Irvin D. Yalom


Many individuals view the issue of "meaninglessness" - asking "what's the point?" - as a problem, an aberration, a temporary spell of teen angst or "middle-age-crisis," a wrong or warped perspective of reality. If those who think that way would just "snap out of it," they say, then the person would see that life is really hunky-dory, life is really just a bowl of peaches, and there's really nothing to be concerned or worried about. Life is not absurd, life makes sense, life is meaningful, and anyone who sees things any other way must be mistaken.

"To have a reason to get up in the morning,
it is necessary to possess a guiding principle.
A belief of some kind . . ."
- from the novel Ordinary People

However, in the opinion of these illustrious LiveReal Agents, however, reality is just the opposite. Those who are concerned about meaninglessness and ask such things as "What's the point?" are actually often more perceptive and sensitive to the real and actual condition of things than those who don't. In short, they are often more in touch with reality.

It may well be a fact that life, at least at is is usually lived, actually is absurd when seen from a certain perspective.

"Ivan Ilych's life
had been most simple and most ordinary
and therefore most terrible."
- Leo Tolstoy

There is ample evidence for this - as found, for example, by simply reading a few history books, or even just a copy of Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl. While Frankl's book may not provide the solution to the experience of meaninglessness, it presents an almost perfect case study in how absurd, cruel, unjust, pointless, and simply insane life can sometimes (er, often) be.

And those who are not in denial of these facts or experiences, and have the capacity and willingness to face these fairly unpleasant realities, tend to be, naturally, a little bugged by them.

This includes many intelligent and perceptive individuals throughout history. Such as, for example...

Leo Tolstoy describes the experience:

"But five years ago
something very strange began to happen to me. At first I began having moments of bewilderment, when my life would come to a halt, as if I did not know how to live or what to do; I would lose my presence of mind and fall into a state of depression. But this passed, and I continued to live as before. Then the moments of bewilderment recurred more frequently, and they always took the same form. Whenever my life came to a halt, the questions would arise: Why? And what next?

At first I thought these were pointless and irrelevant questions. I thought that the answers to them were well known and that if I should ever want to resolve them, it would not be too hard for me; it was just that I could not be bothered with it now, but if I should take it upon myself, then I would find the answers. But the questions began to come up more and more frequently, and their demands to be answered became more and more urgent . . .

The questions seemed to be such foolish, simple, childish questions. But as soon as I laid my hands on them and tried to resolve them, I was immediately convinced, first of all, that they were not childish and foolish questions but the most vital and profound questions in life, and, secondly, that no matter how much I pondered them there was no way I could resolve them. Before I could be occupied with my Samara estate, with the education of my son, or with the writing of books, I had to know why I was doing these things. As long as I do not know the reason why, I cannot do anything. In the middle of my concern with the household, which at the time kept me quite busy, a questions would suddenly come into my head: "Very well, you will have 16,200 acres in the Samara province, as well as 300 horses; what then?" And I was completely taken aback and did not know what else to think. As soon as I started to think about the education of my children, I would ask myself, "Why?" Or I would reflect on how the people might attain prosperity, and I would suddenly ask myself, "What concern is it of mine?" Or in the middle of thinking about the fame that my works were bringing me I would say to myself, "Very well, you will be more famous than Gogol, Pushkin, Shakespeare, Moliere, more famous than all the writers in the world - so what?
And I could find absolutely no reply.

My life came to a stop. I could breathe, eat, drink, and sleep; indeed, I could not help but breathe, eat, drink, and sleep. But there was no life in me because I had no desires whose satisfaction I would have found reasonable. If I wanted something, I knew beforehand that it did not matter whether or not I got it.

If a fairy had come and offered to fulfill my every wish, I would not have known what to wish for. If in moments of intoxication I should have not desires but the habits of old desires, in moments of sobriety I knew that it was all a delusion, that I really desired nothing. I did not even want to discover truth anymore because I had guessed what it was. The truth was that life is meaningless . . .

The only thing that amazed me was how I had failed to realize this in the very beginning. All this had been common knowledge for so long. If not today, then tomorrow sickness and death will come (indeed, they were already approaching) to everyone, to me, and nothing will remain except the stench and the worms. My deeds, whatever they may be, will be forgotten sooner or later, and I myself will be no more. Why, then, do anything? How can anyone fail to see this and live? That's what is amazing! It is possible to live only as long as life intoxicates us; once we are sober we cannot help seeing that it is all a delusion, a stupid delusion! Nor is there anything funny or witty about it; it is only cruel and stupid.
- excerpt from Confession

- and Herman Melville . . .

". . . take high abstracted man along;
and he seems a wonder, a grandeur and a woe.
But from the same point,
Take mankind in the mass,
and for the most part,
they seem a mob of unnecessary duplicates . . ."
- Herman Melville, Moby Dick

- and William Shakespeare . . .

"O God! O God!
How weary, stale, flat, and unprofitable
Seem to me all the uses of this world . . .

This goodly frame, the earth,
seems to me a sterile promontory;
this most excellent canopy, the air, look you,
this brave o'erhanging firmament,
this majestical roof fretted with golden fire,
it appears no other thing to me
but a foul and pestilent congregation of vapors.
What a piece of work is a man!
How noble in reason! how infinite in faculty!
in form, in moving, how express an admirable! in action how like an angel!
in apprehension how like a god!
And yet, to me, what is this quintessence of dust?
man delights not me; no, nor woman neither . . .

For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
The oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely,
The pangs of dispriz'd love, the law's delay,
The insolence of office, and the spurns
That patient merit of the unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare bodkin? who would fardels bear,
To grunt and sweat under a weary life . . . "
- William Shakespeare, Hamlet

- and the author(s) of a 2,500 year-old Sanskrit tale . . .

". . . Because I have no wish for victory, Krishna,
nor for a kingdom, nor for its pleasures.
How can we want a kingdom, Govinda, or its pleasures or even life,
When those for whom we want a kingdom,
and its pleasures, and the joys of life,
are here in this field of battle about to give up their wealth and their life?
Facing us in the field of battle are teachers, fathers and sons;
grandsons, grandfathers, wives' brothers; mothers' brothers and fathers of wives.
These I do not wish to slay, even if I myself am slain.
Not even for the kingdom of the three worlds:
how much less for a kingdom of the earth!"
- The Bhagavad Gita

- and King Solomon...

"I have seen all the works that are done under the sun;
and behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit.
That which is crooked cannot be made straight;
and that which is wanting cannot be numbered . . .
Then I looked on all the works that my hands had wrought,
and on the labor that I had labored to do:
and, behold, all was vanity and vexation of spirit,
and there was no profit under the sun . . ."
- Ecclesiastes

Some individuals - but only a few who possess a certain measure of intelligence - see life in a certain way that it appears meaningless. After all, we live for several years, then die. We work and work, but eventually everything we are working on crumbles to dust. What, then, is the point?

"She's polishing the brass on the Titanic, man.
It's all going down."
- "Tyler Durden,"
from the Chuck Palaniuk novel/David Fincher movie Fight Club

Why, since living means suffering to one degree or another - sometimes suffering immensely - how and why do we push through it? How and why can we move through and beyond the slings and arrows?

Or in a sense, this is another way of asking "Why Are We Here?"

"The truth is that your daily life is but a thin strip of experience
barely seeming in the profundity of who you are at depth.
Your activities and relationships never capture the grandeur
that wants to unfold from your heart into the world.
There may be moments of palpable glory,
brief openings through which magnificence effulgence without curtail,
but mainly your life is a tragic almost-there
of unfulfilled longing and partial gestures of tense effort."
- David Deida

Getting a Handle on "The Problem"

The experience of meaninglessness, or seeing life as empty, pointless, absurd, and even stupid, can be approached in at least three broad ways:

  1. This view (that "life is meaningless") is an illusion; life is in truth meaningful, we just for some reason can't see it.
  2. This view is accurate; life is in truth meaningless, and some individuals are merely sensitive and perceptive enough to see it.
  3. Life is truthfully "meaningless" in some ways and "meaningful" in other ways, and it depends on the state of a person's perspective on the matter.

So what can we do about it?

"It is only when we realize that life is taking us nowhere
that it begins to have meaning."
- P.D. Ouspensky

Meaningless as Loss of Attachment

Many individuals might experience meaninglessness as a kind of depression after experiencing a loss.

For example, suppose a person loses a house, a car, a job, a relationship, or a person who meant a great deal to them. After this loss happens, the individual can experience a painful "emptiness," an absence, something like a newly-lost tooth of the soul, which feels extremely uncomfortable.

The process of healing from this loss lies in grieving and eventually accepting the loss, and allowing oneself to move on, honoring what has been lost while continuing to live.

And since, in the way life is built, loss is an inevitable part of things, a large part of this aspect lies in preparing oneself...

Preventing Meaninglessness from Attachments

In a way, some unnecessary suffering can be avoided through not getting wrongfully and improportionately "attached" to certain things, whether they be houses, cars, jobs, relationships, ideas, theories, or even people.

There is a phrase "All is change," pointing to the truth that everything changes (except possibly for change itself) - which is a short version of the Buddhist teaching on "Impermanence." When we truly understand "impermanence," then we can also understand that becoming too attached to anything - because any "thing" is, given a long enough time span, necessarily impermanent - then suffering, when that change comes, is inevitable.

This is why many spiritual teachers speak of an attitude of "detachment" - which is not coldly keeping oneself removed and distant from life, but maintaining a proper perspective in things, and not making them the ground and nature of one's own purpose of life. In a way, ignoring impermanence is like looking for "IT" in all the wrong places, or searching for something permanent in the impermanent, for God in places or things where God will not be found.

"It is not for man to seek, or even to believe in, God.
He only has to refuse his ultimate love to everything that is not God.
This refusal does not presuppose any belief.
It is enough to recognize what is obvious to any mind:
that all the goods of this world,
past, present, and future, real or imaginary,
are finite and limited and radically incapable of satisfying
the desire that perpetually burns within us
for an infinite and perfect good."
- Simone Weil

Meaningless as No "Games Worth Playing"

above all,
for a game
worth playing."
- Robert S. de Ropp

Meaninglessness can arrive for a person who sees life as more or less a series of "games" - and none of those games are worth playing.

This can be viewed as spending one's entire life working one's way to the "top of the ladder, only to find that there is nothing there, slaving away at an unpleasant, unrewarding job for one's entire life, only to be rewarded with a demotion, mandatory retirement, or a cheap gold watch; giving one's life to a business, a relationship, a family, a work of art, only to come in the end to see that all the work, sweat, and pain involved is essentially for nothing.

This is the situation for many sensitive and perceptive individuals, who see through many of the games, and so, don't see them as worth getting involved in.

The "solution," in this case, lies in finding "a game worth playing." How does one do this? Well, every individual finds the way for themselves . . . but many alternate option are available, such as, for example, the search for God, the search for Love, or one suggestion proposed by a guy named Robert de Ropp is something called "The Master Game" . . .

"The fact is
that this is what society is
and always has been:
A symbolic action system,
a structure of statuses and roles, customs and rules for behavior,
designed to serve as a vehicle for earthly heroism . . .
It doesn't matter whether the cultural hero-system
is frankly magical, religious, and primitive or secular, scientific, and civilized.
It is still a mythical hero-system
in which people serve in order to earn a feeling of primary value,
of cosmic specialness, of ultimate usefulness to creation, of unshakable meaning."
- Ernest Becker, The Denial of Death

Meaninglessness as an urge to "Grow"

One perspective on meaninglessness by David Deida is that it is actually a positive sign that we are growing more mature as human beings.

For example, when we were children, most of us enjoyed playing with toy cars or dolls or sandboxes. After a period of time, we "outgrew" these toys, and as we grew older, we moved on to other things, such as making money, buying houses, and having sex.

If we had never gotten "tired" or "bored" in a way, of playing with sandboxes, then we probably never would have moved on, never taking on larger responsibilities in the business of life.

Often, "meaninglessness" is the same process on another level. We know or have proven that we can survive in the world at a fairly basic level - we can pay bills, work jobs, have relationships, and so on.

But the question still arises - "Is this all there is?"

When a sense of dissatisfaction, boredom, or the pointlessness of life arises, this may be a symptom that we have outgrown, in a sense, our current goals and dreams and activities, and need to move on to newer, more meaningful, more challenging tasks. This does not mean abandoning one's family or job, but rather, perhaps looking more deeply into the big questions of life, or digging more deeply into figuring out why we, or specifically, you, are here.

(Note: This type of scenario is played out in the movie Scent of a Woman. Lt. Colonel Frank Slade, weary and bored with life, makes one last run with all his old pleasures (fine dining, lodging, women, a Ferrari) - but the old pleasures aren't enough to make his life meaningful . . . so he has to discover it in a new way . . .)

Meaninglessness as Created by Wrong Meditation

Spiritual teacher Albert Low speaks of the single fundamental "koan" of life - the single "problem" which gives rise to all other "problems" - as the dilemma of "participant" verses "observer," a fundamental split at the core of our being, so that we are at different times "participating" in life and at others "observing" life, and the tension entailed in being sometimes one, or the other, or both, or neither.

Some meditations and spiritual teachers try to resolve this dilemma in a wrong way, that produces experiences of meaninglessness.

"There are many pitfalls along the path of meditation,
but there are two principal ones:
the first in which the meditator seeks to be pure observer
by suppressing the (identity of being a) participator (in life),
the other in which the meditator seeks to be pure participant.
In both there is the search for the One at the expense of two . . .
Both extremes, observing and participating, simply "get rid of" ego by a trick.
Both, if used as a form of meditation, lead students
to resent the "interference" of life with their "practice":
on the one hand, seeing life more and more
as a meaningless parade,
scorning people who participate and get involved;
and on the other hand, feeling more and more put upon by things,
feeling increasing self-pity and seeking quiet
- or paradoxically, seeking intense orgiastic situations
such as acid rock, strobe lights, drugs, or the rallies of demagogues and faith healers."
- from The Iron Cow of Zen by Albert Low

Low does not propose a simple "solution" that can be accurately expressed in words, but essentially recommends a true practice of meditation or Zen as taught by a genuine teacher.

Solutions to Meaninglessness?

There is a vast different between:

  1. a random and unrelated series of events ("The post office opened, then the sun went down, then a dog ate his food . . ."), and
  2. a "story."

What is the difference? In a way, the difference between a mere series of events and a "story" is that a story has "meaning" and mere events in and of themselves, do not.

One aspect of anything resembling a "solution" to meaninglessness, then, might have something to do with whether your life is a random and unrelated series of events, or a story.

A story makes sense in some kind of fundamental way.

A random and unrelated series of events...is just that. It doesn't make sense.

Part of digging yourself out of this, then, involves taking what might seem like the random and unrelated series of events from your life...and figuring out the story.

Nietzsche might call it making "order from chaos."

In this sense, some of the existentialists might really be on to something: life gives us raw material, but from that point on, we are able to write the story. ("Story," here, being the events of our own lives, or the "story" of our lives.)

(more on this to come here...)

While there is definitely no quick fix to the problem of meaninglessness (or much of anything worthwhile,) and each individual must approach the situation in their own way, there may well be some general guidelines to finding a "cure."

Many suggest the following:

  1. addressing potential emotional issues underlying the perception of meaninglessness
  2. "creating" a meaning for your life
  3. finding whether or not actual, objective meaning in life does exist - and if it does, finding it.

An Elaboration on Option 1:
A.H. Almaas, Haridas Chaudhuri, and Roy Masters all speak about the condition of being "cut off" from one's true essence, or true self, or higher self, or whatever you want to call it; this leads to feelings of alienation and isolation.
The cure they recommend, is (in brief) to re-connect with one's true self or "essence."
Easier said that done, for sure. But the basic process is that of meditation.

For further information on Almaas's work see The Diamond Approach and Roy Masters' work at The Foundation of Human Understanding, as well as other perspectives on depression.

Elaboration on Option 2:
Many existential thinkers recommend finding a fresh new activity to occupy one's time. They seem to recommend this solution, basically "finding whatever works for you," whether it be drinking, stamp collecting, hunting llamas, alligator wrestling . . . whatever "makes you tingle."

In this less-than-perfectly unbiased LiveReal Agent's opinion, this solution is not necessarily good. In this "find a hobby" school of thought, if you choose the wrong "meaning," similar to arbitrarily choosing the wrong dream, or the wrong ideal that is not based on reality, then things can go badly. At best the solution is temporary, because sooner or later, you'll get tired of your new hobby, too.

A better option, in our opinion, would be choosing something that is actually meaningful in reality, or discovering one's purpose...)

Elaboration on Option 3:
This option entails an all-out, relentless search for the truth of the way things really are.
Take a light bulb: it sits on a store shelf for several weeks...then is bought, taken home, and put in the cabinet for months and months.
Alone and in the dark, in a way, it could feel that life, alone and in the dark, is a stupid, futile, pointless exercise.
When, however, it is taken out of the cabinet and plugged in to the socket, all of a sudden it becomes useful; it serves a purpose, and all of the parts and pieces work together harmoniously to serve as a conduit for light. It is now doing what it was designed for, it is performing the job it was built for. This might be the same as what can happen with human beings.

(Note: if this is the case, then the whole aspect of "creating" meaning does not work. It would be like the lightbulb taking up yoga or canvas painting in an effort to "create" meaning. While this might work for a little while as a temporary distraction and amusement, the light bulb would not experience permanent relief until it became plugged into the socket, or performed the exact function it was built for.)

This is, in short, could be accomplished done by "finding" "God" through meditation or some other means, such as working with a genuine spiritual teacher.

And for even further digging . . .

We suggest this perspective from David Deida . . .

We suggest an investigation of Ken Wilber when he speaks of meaninglessness as arising from the (incomplete) perspective of "Flatland."

The suggestion of meaninglessness arising from a need to strengthen one's ability to love.

The suggestion of meaninglessness arising from a person having a less-than-perfect sex life.

In addition, we suggest an investigation of the work of Saniel Bonder, specifically his writings on what he calls "The Rot", which suggests that existential meaninglessness is a necessary precondition to real spiritual growth.


"Human beings, whoever they may be,
consciously or unconsciously look for a meaning to their lives.
They need a reason to live and, each day, try to find it
through all that their domestic, social and professional life give them.
But in reality no success, no material possession can give them the meaning of life,
precisely because it is a matter of 'meaning',
and meaning is not a material reality;
it can only be found up above on the subtle planes.
In the lower regions, we can find only forms.
Of course we can fill up the form with content,
which is in the feeling, the sensation we experience
when we truly love an object, a person or an activity.
But feeling is often temporary,
and when we lose it, we are left with a sense of emptiness and pain.
So we must look beyond the content for the meaning.
When we reach the meaning, we are fulfilled."
- Mikhaël Omraam Aïvanhov


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Confession by Leo Tolstoy
Man's Search for Himself by Rollo May
Existential Psychotherapy, Chapter 6, by Irvin Yalom
The Power of Meaning by Emily Esfahani Smith

Movies / Television
Groundhog Day
The Last Samurai
True Detective Season 1
Fight Club
Scent of a Woman
Simon Birch
The Legend of Bagger Vance

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